The Last Hurrah

You're real lucky you made that nice edit in time, just as I was reporting to a moderator the fact that you were slamming my religious beliefs. I don't "worship moonflowers"--not that it's any of your business.

I am assuming, given that most of the moderators here are fair people, that slamming another religion would not be OK if slamming Christianity is not.

As for the rest of your inflammatory post--I'm ignoring it. I'll let a moderator decide what to do.

 

I was discussing this whole issue with my mother, and she provided an interesting analogy.

Think about if Josh threw a party in his basement and invited everyone to come. However, he sets a few ground rules. For example, no alcohol would be allowed at the party. You are only allowed in the basement (and maybe the upstairs bathroom, if the downstairs one is occupied). He also decides to limit the music to oldies.

Now, a group of partiers decide that they want to get drunk at this party. Do they have the right to demand that they can drink whatever they want in Josh's basement? Do they have the right to demand that Josh give them beer or otherwise help them get drunk? Not at all.

Does Josh have the right to demand that they leave if they do not abide by his rules? Heck, yes.

The partiers can ask if it would be ok to change the music. They could even ask if they could bring some beer for everyone (who wants it at least). However, if Josh says no, they have no right to try to force him to change his mind. It is still his party and his basement.

I fail to see how any of that would change just because the party is online instead of in his basement.

Kimball Kinnison

 

So you deny that arguing over a moot point for many many months on a Star Wars website is a not so intelligent thing?

You have no choice. It's not your bloody website.

 

As for the rest of your inflammatory post--I'm ignoring it. I'll let a moderator decide what to do.

I'll step in with this, as a message for everyone.

We will keep this civil on all sides. That means no more personal swipes at people, but it also means no more accusations at others. Not everything is or needs to be a personal attack. If you can't keep your posts polite and non-accusatory, either don't post it, or be prepared to take a vacation.

Kimball Kinnison

 

"I don't think it is insulting to Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan to suggest that they might be gay. It's far more insulting to suggest that Obi-Wan might sleep with Padme."

LFL disagrees with you. Furthermore, a legal action or lawsuit from them on this topic for be far more damaging, and have more basis, than one from you. Besides, any line drawn will be arbitrary, and LFL, being the copyright holder, has more of a basis to draw that line wherever they wish. This is the reality of the situation.

"This is not the last website on the internet, and it boggles why it's so important for this to happen here"

Agreed. TF.n cannot and never will be the "one-stop shop" for 100% of all SW fans.

"I was reporting to a moderator the fact that you were slamming my religious beliefs."

Make sure you let them know that you are slamming Josh's also.

 

Make sure you let them know that you are slamming Josh's also.

And got smacked for it last night--which was my point.

 

BTW, KK, your mom sounds like a wise woman.

(Did she ever let you have parties with alcohol? )

 

Well, reading though the various articles posted here about the legality of fan fiction....I'm seeing Josh's point. We all know LFL watches this site - evidenced by the removal of spoilers, etc. IF LFL has shut down sites before because of slash stories, I can understand him not wanting to take the chance. I don't know if this is his modivation or not.

 

You talk about this stuff with your mom?

...

 

Did I take a wrong turn somewhere? I'm looking for the website that talks about Star Wars.

Very amusing, since what we're trying to accomplish is more talk about Star Wars through fan fiction.



So we can write and post a fic with a Padme/Jar Jar relationship?

Yes, and give me a few hours and being rid of my gag reflex, I could probably find you some.




I am wondering why a mod hasn't locked this thread yet.

Because there hasn't been anything in it to warrant a ban?




Why aren't religious reasons valid?

That's what he believes.

Delightful. So why hasn't he pointed to them in his reasons? Why hasn't he said "the Bible says they're wrong and I beleve in the Bible"?





Someone tell me why when I go out to have a life this thread always jumps two pages? Not one, not three, but always two? Boggles the mind.

 

So why hasn't he pointed to them in his reasons? Why hasn't he said "the Bible says they're wrong and I beleve in the Bible"?

Would you really accept that? I doubt it.

 

I would. Why? Because it's a bloody straight forward reason.

 

I can't think of any Padme/Jar Jar on the JC, but I have seen it elsewhere.

YubYub and TG- Protecting fangirls from hormonally gifted fanboys since 2002

 

Someone tell me why when I go out to have a life this thread always jumps two pages? Not one, not three, but always two? Boggles the mind.

That'll teach you!

 

Because it's a bloody straight forward reason.

But you continually point out that you refuted his last straight forward reason. Why would this one be different?

Amazing.

 

I'm on .20 a minute time so for those wondering about my comment re: OC's (original characters) we had (so I though) had hashed this out in the WRF some time ago and on the earlier pages of this thread you'll find what was at the time the 'acceptible standard' for homosexual/bisexual characters.... (Stupid Windows XP and it's corrupted data start ups)

 

Well said, MyKe1138.

 

"Delightful. So why hasn't he pointed to them in his reasons? Why hasn't he said "the Bible says they're wrong and I beleve in the Bible"?"

He need not. You post here at his convenience.

Besides, no reason he gives will be sufficient. It's a lose-lose situation.

"Someone tell me why when I go out to have a life this thread always jumps two pages? Not one, not three, but always two? Boggles the mind."

You'd probably be equally perplexed if there were no activity.

"But you continually point out that you refuted his last straight forward reason. Why would this one be different? "

Because it's not a RECENT bloody straight forward reason.

I keep seeing this situation...

Liz_Skywalker: Are we there yet?

Josh: No

Liz_Skywalker: Are we there yet?

Josh: No

Liz_Skywalker: Are we there yet?

Josh: No

Liz_Skywalker: Are we there yet?

Josh: No

Of course, the real irony is, while both people are riding the same vehicle (TF.n), they are heading in completely opposite directions. Unfortunately for Liz, there's only one steering wheel, and no one likes a backseat driver.

BTW, well said, MyKe1138!

 

Gang, this has been a good conversation and I appreciate and have read most all of the comments. After talking with Sapient tonight and seeeing some of the particulary good posts here in the final few pages, I think the time has come for this to be tabled for now.

The staff stands by the original decision that has been made previously.

Josh