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No, progressives simply insist that this country has to strive to be better.

 

Progressives think America's best days are ahead of us and strive to make it so. Conservatives think America's best days are behind us and strive to make it so.

 

I always find it rich when I here conservatives questions others love for this country.......giving their track record that last 10-15 years.

 

Wait, is this the same September 12, 2012 when Obama called it an act of terror on national television? So you're saying they knew what had happened by September 12, 2012? I guess the coverup period here is supposed to be the time it took Obama to walk to the podium?

 

Look at what Obama said over the two weeks.

By the 12th, had they bothered to talk with the senior surviving diplomat in Libya at the time, they'd have known it was an attack. So either they didn't talk to him, or they did and decided to lie about it.

Obama, I guess, was more interested in his Vegas fundraiser with Beyonce.

 

It was an attack either way. By the 12th, Obama said publicly that it was an act of terror. Does Obama saying it was an act of terror indicate that he didn't know it was an act of terror? So much for the fictional narrative of "Obama tried to hide the fact that there are still terrorists out there". FLUSH.

Sorry, you'll have to use a different ploy to snatch everyone's health care. Try the IRS thing.

 

I can't read it without thinking of Patrick Stewart.

 

Can he please have a role on Doctor Who at some point in time? Please?!

 

Thanks!

 

The IRS thing focusing on the Tea Party and related conservatibe groups. They have been financed by the same people who have helped screw this country for the past 13 years; i.e. "The Right". Why not see what they are up to?

 

I like to think I have made it wel lknown that I do not just listen to a single side of the media/political structure and pass judgement. I do watch Fox News and listen to Beck and Limbaugh. Recently there has been adverts for Buy Belize. What is that? And advert for rich folks to avoid paying taxes. A tax haven.

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I do still watch FOX on occassion (when they're not focusing all their attention on Benghazi), because sometimes when they come upon a legal case/story with little to no political bent, they sometimes ARE fair and balanced (Case in point: The Casey Anthony murder trial. I tuned into FOX more often during that one than CNN because, a few of their anchors are former lawyers and it's nice to hear views from both sides of a legal argument without a Nancy Grace sized ego shooting down whichever side she thinks is wrong), but I don't listen to Rush or Beck because Rush makes my blood pressure spike and Beck gives me constant headaches from hitting it on my desk.

 

Make no mistake, when I hit the radio shows of Beck and Rush I have a hard time staying with it for more than a few minutes at a time.

 

"It was worse than a crime. It was a mistake."

 

Am I the only one who enjoys Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh on the radio? They have to inflate and contort everything into some paranoid conspiracy that it's actually quite impressive. It's especially fun when Beck cries.

 

It would be fun if there weren't people who legitimately agree with their nonsense.

 

Yeah, what the IRS did was wrong... I wonder if they actually had a manager (the GOP has blocked a director for the last 4 years) if this still would have happened?

There's no news on Benghazi, I'm not sure why people keep bringing that up.

As for the AP... the DoJ was investigating a national security leak, so they were looking through phone records. It's legal. What exactly is the scandal? Did the press really think they were immune to all of this?



Anyways,

North Carolina wants to ban Tesla electric cars:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_t...ould_prevent_unfair_competition_with_car.html

Brought to you by the party for "economic freedom"!

 

I think the IRS 'scandal' is the only one with merit. And that is kind of is a one-week story unless they were getting directed to by Obama or a Cabinet member.

The DoJ 'scandal' I don't entirely understand and partly attribute to the media wanting a pile-on and to protect their own (if these were any other civilians having their records seized under the terms of the Patriot Act, journalists wouldn't find the story interesting). These procedures are fairly common throughout the last decade and they are trying to investigate a national security leak where the AP broke a story of bomb plot foiled by a Secret Service double agent so by current standards I'd say that is fair game. I tend to side with the 'government does overreach in the name on national security' position, but I don't see how this is out of line with what's been going on since 9/11.

Also, if anyone here (i.e., Smuggler) thinks that Obama will be impeached over this, Dick Morris is predicting he will be. So we now know that he will not.

 

Obama will not be impeached. He will, however, eat a peach because they are delicious.

 

"Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time... a long time"