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Amph "You think you're the only superhero in the world?" - The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Discussion in 'Community' started by The2ndQuest , Apr 26, 2010.

  1. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    "Dang it."
     
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  2. Darth_Invidious

    Darth_Invidious Force Ghost star 6

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    I'd argue that the MCU needs Doom above all: A charismatic, OP, apex-predator villain to loom as a menace throughout the next iteration of the franchise that will, hopefully, not follow the pattern of non-noteworthiness that will no doubt repeat itself with Thanos in IW.
     
  3. Master_Lok

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    NIcely said. I'd add Galactus because the idea of an ominous World Eater running around the Marvel Cinematic Universe would be great fun to see. Now just get Universal to give up Namor and I'll be good. :)
     
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  4. Diggy

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    Who knows what the truth of it is, but you may have your wish. MAY.

    In 2012, Marvel CCO Joe Quesada thought Namor's film rights had reverted to Marvel, but in August 2013 it was revealed by Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige that this was not the case, and the rights remained at Universal Pictures.[109] Borys Kit of The Hollywood Reporter stated in May 2014 that Marvel now has the rights for Namor.[110][111] On June 3, 2014, Kit confirmed that Marvel, not Universal now has the Namor film rights.[110] On July 18, 2014, Feige told IGN in an interview that the Namor film rights are not with Universal or Legendary Pictures, but he explained there are a number of contracts and deals that need to be sorted out.[112] In June 2016, on the podcast Fat Man on Batman, Quesada again stated that, to his knowledge, Marvel owned the film rights to Namor.[113]
     
  5. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    I'm not sure the MCU "needs" anything given their both critical and box office successes, and their formula of not focusing on the villains.

    However, Dr. Doom would be an incredible score for the MCU in that Doom is Marvel's version of Lex Luthor with the gravitas of being a dictator of his own country. Moreover, Marvel has a super rich history with Dr. Doom.

    And simply, Doom is badass.

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  6. Master_Lok

    Master_Lok Force Ghost star 6

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    Mind blown out of thread :p ...thanks for the footnotes.

     
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  7. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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  8. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    if you're not dead of boredom by the third week of january
     
  9. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    I haven't followed the comics closely, but I don't see how Doctor Doom can match Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet on the threat scale. Heck, even in the source material, Doom has to team up with the heroes to go after Thanos.
     
  10. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    IIRC, in that panel above, Doom has the power of the Beyonder.
     
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  11. darth-sinister

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    Eh, Lex can beat that.

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  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, that's from the Battleworld reality of recent Secret Wars where Doom was effectively a god in charge of keeping the reality together.
     
  13. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah, but even a god could fear a man. Enter Reed Richards. It was such a great moment for Reed.
    Overall, I enjoyed the 2015 version of Secret Wars and some of the tie-ins.

    At any rate, I do believe that Dr. Doom would make a great antagonist in a post Thanos MCU. I just hope they don't tie Doom's origin with the Fantastic Four again. Go a different route.
     
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  14. PCCViking

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    But enough about the first Thor movie. :p

    (For me, it felt the most boring. I liked the second and third Thor movies better).
     
  15. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    if we're talking about worthwhile viewing

    im1, cap1, av1, cap2, gotg1, av2, cap3, and spidey.

    spend the saved time watching and rewatching the glorious two seasons of daredevil
     
  16. heels1785

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  17. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    I'm sure Fox shareholders are excited for this deal to go through as much as Marvel nerds; perhaps even more.

    $60 billion is a huge number, especially in comparison to when Disney bought Lucasfilm and Marvel Entertainment for (IIRC) $4 billion respectively. It was a wise investment for Disney to purchase those two entities as The Force Awakens and Rogue One has grossed about $3 billion with The Last Jedi expected to gross in the billions as well; plus Marvel Studios films have grossed around $13 billion YTD. I'm not sure how long it would take for Disney to make a profit on the $60 billion investment in Fox's assets. I mean, (rhetorically speaking) how much more money would the X-Men and Fantastic Four films add to the MCU annually? An X-Men or Fantastic Four film would more than likely take another character's film spot in the line up much like Spider-Man did, which pushed back Black Panther, Antman & The Wasp and Captain Marvel. (Also rhetorical) Would Disney risk saturating the market and produce 4 to 5 MCU films a year? Many feel this move is to bolster their media library for the launch of their paid streaming service and hit the ground running against their competition like Netflix and Amazon Prime.

    As a long time Marvelite, I've hoped and dreamed from a deal like this to take place and truly have a Marvel cinematic universe with all it's major characters appearing together or crossing over.

    I suspect Kevin Feige knew this deal was in the works for a long time because deals like this takes months to prepare because of natural course of due diligence, evaluation of assets, financial forecasts, governmental rules and regulations and so on. Thus, the comments of the MCU having two distinct periods (before Infinity War ("BIF") and after Infinity War ("AIF")) could have been Feige hint at the inclusion of Fox's assets. Marvel Studios has gone on record they've planned the next 20 or so films, which would be easier to fill with X-Men and Fantastic Four part of the cinematic universe.

    I really hope this deal closes next week as I'd get two early Christmas gifts with the finalization of the deal and getting to see The Last Jedi.
     
  18. dp4m

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    https://www.statista.com/statistics/262513/21st-century-foxs-annual-revenue/

    $28.5B revenue annually, with "more than half" (so, say 55%) from cable news programming -- which isn't being sold. At $13B per annum, it'll take 5 years.

    Considering depreciation doesn't occur until after then (or another 5 years after depending on asset), and all of the solid (i.e. static) revenue from home video assets... that's a ridiculous "bargain" for $60B...
     
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  19. Master_Lok

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    BREAKING: Walt Disney Co. & 21st Century Fox closing in on deal that could come as soon as next week; enterprise value for 21st Century Fox assets seen above $60 billion - sources http://cnbc.com/id/104880090
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  20. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    ^ this guy gets it.
     
  21. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Man, I forgot about these-

     
  22. Darth_Invidious

    Darth_Invidious Force Ghost star 6

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    As much as the MCU superiority in quality of product output over its DC counterpart has been aptly proven, yeah, a lot of those movies don't lend themselves to second viewings, despite having some good moments here and there. I remember trying a marathon viewing years back prior to Avengers 1 and, oh boy, it wasn't easy. Particularly and especially in regards to Iron Man 2.
     
  23. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    I actually re-watched Iron Man 2 a few times when it was on TV...I liked it better after the second viewing. But yeah, with most of the Marvel films I haven't really bothered to go back and re-watch them.
     
  24. dp4m

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    Iron Man 2 was imo the only real total misfire of Phase 1... it's like Batman v. Superman in that they rushed trying to raise the interpersonal stakes of the overarching universe without any building of the framework around some individually very fun scenes.

    We've met only Bruce Banner by this point in Phase 1, and we've no real reason to care about SHIELD and Tony's self-destructive behavior impacting them (the Rhodey and Pepper stuff works better). It's why when Age of Ultron pulls much of the same story beats it works much, much better (though far less than The Avengers) because of the careful introduction and integration of all of the characters prior...
     
  25. soitscometothis

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