Amph Marvel's Daredevil (Born Again, Again, Being Filmed Again)

That's not terribly bad news, actually- except that it rules out a last-minute inclusion of any cameos in Endgame.

2 years downtime from cancellation isn't all that long- there were 3 years between Jessica Jones seasons and 2 years between Luke Cage seasons. Technically, Daredevil had 2 years between Seasons 2 & 3 as well though that production team was making Defenders in the skipped year and that really was DD S2.5 so I think you could still say DD effectively maintained an annual release schedule. Back before they expanded the production schedule and were on a schedule of only 2 series per year, we were basically expecting 2 years between seasons for these shows at a minimum.

I mean, it's not great that they can't pick it right up- but it at least leaves the door open for some kind of continuation on Hulu or elsewhere within a reasonable timeframe, assuming they can get the talent reassembled.

 

Well, even if we assume Marvel TV plays it safe legally and doesn't start production for 2 years (as opposed to filming in advance and releasing after the deadline) we're already almost 4 months in for some of the characters- plus both Luke and Matt have the advantage of already having scripts and storyboards, etc produced for their next seasons, so pre production development already has a head start if they stick to that content. And, even without that, it's basically just an extra year of downtime- which could be good for the stories since they wouldn't have to worry about butting up against Infinity War's timeline and remain safely a couple years in the past like they've been (even though that hurts their chances of appearing in a film).

 

About to finally finish off Luke Cage this evening and find myself wanting to jump ahead to DDS3. I’m sure there’s no direct plot threads between the two, but are there any connections between DDS3 & IFS2 that I might miss if I skip ahead to DD and circle back to IF?

 

So, started S3. On the 3rd episode. Whose apartment was that? I thought it looked familiar and they mention the govt seized it from “some Wall Street **** convicted of fraud”, but I can’t place it, assuming it’s someone we’ve seen before.

EDIT- hmm, nevermind, later in the episode Karen suggests it was owned by someone we haven’t seen before but is connected to other characters introduced here.

Still, they’re probably reusing the same apartment set from somewhere else. Guess there are a lot of multi floor apartments in NYC .

EDIT 2- And, of course, I’m still trying to process the timeline of these events in relation to PUN S1, since this season is obviously not long after DEF S1 but before the other S2 shows. Just a question of how deep into winter this season goes and what Karen’s awareness of Matt’s survival ends up being by the end. Guess I’ll find out over the next week or so.

Still, end of ep 3 includes a “past couple of months” reference by Matt, so that keeps things pretty close to DEF S1 as a starting point (Beyond the obvious DEF-set prologue to the season).

EDIT 3-

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Well, ep 4 answers the Karen question. Might still fit in before PUN S1 but would mean reinterpreting Karen’s comments to Frank as being evasive/lying.

Fisk’s line about how “The world is changing” and that the real heroes are being ridiculed/vilified could indicate a reference to Civil War as well.

And, yeah, the hallway fight. Holy hell. How could they ever top the complexity of that one?

 

It is a pretty intense season- I went through this one in 4 days, which is the quickest I think I've done since maybe the first season? Given that I have even less time to watch things these days than I used to (plus Xenoblade Chronicles 2 demanding my time), I was surprised how much it pulled me in.

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With everything going down in the church I half expected things to take an Elektra twist with Karen getting killed by Bullseye instead. "Karen" the episode could almost have acted as a prequel episode to the whole series had it not been for the short "now" segment at the end.

The final showdown in the penthouse was crazy (though the final deal between Kingpin and Matt seems a little too convenient/anticlimactic). Once Vanessa showed back up in the show I assumed it would end with Dex taking her out as retaliation for Julie once he found out, but I'm glad they didn't just fridge her like that (even though Julie was, quite literally, fridged, it was legitimately disturbing and shocking at how nonchalantly it was carried out when paired with the psychological manipulation it meant for Dex).

And the reference to Jessica Jones as the second to last line in the second to last scene was amusing as well.

Fingers crossed we still get S4 in a couple years. One has to assume they're holding onto the S4 story work for a reason. The world must know how they intend to top a freaking 11 minute one-shot through a prison riot. Seriously, the logistics of pulling that off are insane.

Timeline-wise, it looks like things have to go Defenders -> PUNS1 -> DDS3 -> JJ S2 -> LCS2 (still have to watch IF S2 to place that one). Defenders is summer-ish, PUN is clearly deep winter but presumably will have to be moved up to just being an early cold stretch in December or so (and if DEF is pushed forward to the late summer/early fall, that allows the "couple of months" between DEF & DD S3. DD S3 happens shortly after PUN in the winter (but not deep winter, since everyone seems alittle warmer than they do in PUN). And JJ S2 is obviously in the summer, with LC likely in the fall (though I have to double check the research, as maybe LC happens before JJ- doesn't seem like Danny waited more than a year to check in on Luke).

EDIT- I may have to rethink that timeline, actually- I forgot about Foggy's appearance in LC S2. Things might be more compressed, because Foggy seems to be working for Hogarth still at the start of DD S3 and definitely was in LC S2. So if he's left in DD S3 to rejoin Matt then those seasons (one could assume JJ S2 is in the same year summer too- I need to see what the firm name is that Foggy is working at now, if it's mentioned, if it's before Hogarth reforms her firm in JJ S2 or not) have to take place before DD S3 (and, by extension, PUN S1).

EDIT 3- So, skimming the other shows, I think what happens is that Hogarth may leave in JJS2 but her firm still remains with 40% of clientele. Foggy likely stays at that same job there to be in LCS2 & DDS3 (though they do not name Foggy's employment in either series). However, Foggy does say that Hogarth/etc's services are whom he works for at the end of Defenders and offers those services to Luke Cage should he need legal help (which he does in LCS2), but, that is not a problem, as the name would have changed between DEFS1 & LCS2 but not Foggy's employment.

The only tricky thing about the timeline is PUNS1 being clearly really winter while DDS3 is not so cold and trying to minimize the span of time from DEFS1 (which takes place around May) since it only seems to be "a couple months" that Matt has been recovering/hiding after awakening from his coma (which could add a couple weeks to a month to the timespan). There could be some overlap that could explain things a little but I need to reskim PUNS1 to be certain.

EDIT 2- Heh, with that compressed timeline, NYC had a crazy second half of 2016: earthquakes followed by the Midland Circle collapse, Civil War happens (albeit not in NYC), a street war engulfs all of Harlem, a high school class almost dies on a field trip in DC, a cargo plane full of Avengers gear crash lands on Coney Island, not-Jigsaw sets off several terrorist bombs and then the whole Fisk/FBI/Bullseye thing including a newsroom slaughter and a dead priest. And the whole battle of wizards happening secretly in Doctor Strange.

That didn't feel too out of place to me- almost every one of these shows have focused on at least one (or more) cops or agents as major supporting characters.